Comments on: -Apostle Paul was a Fake and a Spy? http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy ANSWERS For The Faith Blogs Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:31:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dr. D http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-67482 Dr. D Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:25:20 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-67482 Thanks Chris. Right on. Thanks Chris. Right on.

]]> By: Chris http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-67437 Chris Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:13:29 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-67437 For those claiming Paul somehow teaches things counter to the teachings of Christ...where do you get your proof? Paul did say that there was nothing wrong with eating meat that had been sacrificed to idols, but he went on to say that this "liberty" was between you and God, and should not be acted on around those who didn't have the faith to believe it was okay. Nowhere do the teachings of Paul go against the teachings of Christ. Not one single time. As regards the statement that, somehow, Governmental rule is satanic and that said rule is the "beast" described in Revelation? I honestly am unsure if I should weep or laugh. "Render unto Caeser what is Caeser's and unto God what is God's." Does that sound familiar at all? That's right. Those are the words of Jesus. Doesn't sound like He's condemning governmental rule. (That would be extremely ironic, since it was YHWH who INSTITUTED it!) For those claiming Paul somehow teaches things counter to the teachings of Christ…where do you get your proof?

Paul did say that there was nothing wrong with eating meat that had been sacrificed to idols, but he went on to say that this “liberty” was between you and God, and should not be acted on around those who didn’t have the faith to believe it was okay.

Nowhere do the teachings of Paul go against the teachings of Christ. Not one single time.

As regards the statement that, somehow, Governmental rule is satanic and that said rule is the “beast” described in Revelation? I honestly am unsure if I should weep or laugh. “Render unto Caeser what is Caeser’s and unto God what is God’s.” Does that sound familiar at all? That’s right. Those are the words of Jesus. Doesn’t sound like He’s condemning governmental rule. (That would be extremely ironic, since it was YHWH who INSTITUTED it!)

]]> By: Dr. D http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-49736 Dr. D Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:35:37 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-49736 san mcnellis, You are entirely wrong. Paul is not a false prophet. Jesus did not name him or imply that he was in Revelation (2:2). Paul did not teach that Jesus had returned 'as one unnaturally born' -Paul was referring in context to himself (I Cor. 5-9) verse 9 continues the thought and shows Paul himself is the subject of that phrase and not Jesus. Paul did not say in 1 Cor 10 to eat meat sacrificed to idols. He taught that Christians should not <strong>knowingly</strong> eat meat dedicated to idols- far different than what you imply. Plus I will not give any PR to the heretical book you want to link to I am already conversant with most of the issues expressed there. I will say this, there is merit to the idea that the teaching of Jesus needs to receive more attention and primacy in the church. However, the writings of Paul are inspired and a necessary part of the Christian canon of scripture and still valid today and forever. san mcnellis,
You are entirely wrong. Paul is not a false prophet. Jesus did not name him or imply that he was in Revelation (2:2). Paul did not teach that Jesus had returned ‘as one unnaturally born’ -Paul was referring in context to himself (I Cor. 5-9) verse 9 continues the thought and shows Paul himself is the subject of that phrase and not Jesus.

Paul did not say in 1 Cor 10 to eat meat sacrificed to idols. He taught that Christians should not knowingly eat meat dedicated to idols- far different than what you imply. Plus I will not give any PR to the heretical book you want to link to I am already conversant with most of the issues expressed there.

I will say this, there is merit to the idea that the teaching of Jesus needs to receive more attention and primacy in the church. However, the writings of Paul are inspired and a necessary part of the Christian canon of scripture and still valid today and forever.

]]> By: san mcnellis http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-49567 san mcnellis Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:16:47 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-49567 Paul was the deception which Jesus warned. Jesus said if anyone said I returned, do not believe it. Paul said Jesus returned as one unnaturally born. Paul says in 1 Cor 10 to eat meat sacrificed to idols. The apostles for bid it in Acts chapters 15 and 21. Jesus IDs Paul in Revelations and disapproves of Paul's eating idol meat. ...no doubt Paul is a false apostle. Paul was the deception which Jesus warned. Jesus said if anyone said I returned, do not believe it. Paul said Jesus returned as one unnaturally born. Paul says in 1 Cor 10 to eat meat sacrificed to idols. The apostles for bid it in Acts chapters 15 and 21. Jesus IDs Paul in Revelations and disapproves of Paul’s eating idol meat. …no doubt Paul is a false apostle.

]]> By: Dan Brown http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-31004 Dan Brown Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:08:00 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-31004 The teachings of Paul form the basis of much of modern Christianity. But they are not the teachings of Jesus. Nor do they typically clarify or even echo the teachings of Jesus. They do, however, serve to create a theology by which believers may readily aqcuiesce to being peacefully governed. The teachings of Paul form the basis of much of modern Christianity. But they are not the teachings of Jesus. Nor do they typically clarify or even echo the teachings of Jesus. They do, however, serve to create a theology by which believers may readily aqcuiesce to being peacefully governed.

]]> By: kenny http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-21038 kenny Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:11:53 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-21038 Im confused, I love Jesus Christ but find my self questioning the Bible? Im confused, I love Jesus Christ but find my self questioning the Bible?

]]> By: kenny http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-21002 kenny Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:23:57 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-21002 When paul told people to fear the romans because they carry the sword and pay heavy taxes to ceaser he lost ALL creadability... since when did the Romans become Gods avengers! We are told in scripture that Govenmental rule is Satanic (the wild beast of Revelation) so why adhere to it... would you worship Ceaser as a Christian just because you lived in Rome? so why tell others to? I agree, Paul was a spy, his convertion is just to neat and tidy. Wake up people the whole Canon of the Bible is suspect to say the least!!! I Follow Jesus whole heartedly and can see flaws in the whole Canon... Kenny. When paul told people to fear the romans because they carry the sword and pay heavy taxes to ceaser he lost ALL creadability… since when did the Romans become Gods avengers! We are told in scripture that Govenmental rule is Satanic (the wild beast of Revelation) so why adhere to it… would you worship Ceaser as a Christian just because you lived in Rome? so why tell others to? I agree, Paul was a spy, his convertion is just to neat and tidy. Wake up people the whole Canon of the Bible is suspect to say the least!!! I Follow Jesus whole heartedly and can see flaws in the whole Canon… Kenny.

]]> By: -Apostle Paul was a Fake and a Spy? | BIBLE Study http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-13943 -Apostle Paul was a Fake and a Spy? | BIBLE Study Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:02:41 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-13943 [...] LEXINGTON, Va.: – The head of the history department at Virginia Military Institute suggests that the Apostle Paul faked his conversion and was really a spy for the Romans.   <<Read the Rest>> [...] [...] LEXINGTON, Va.: – The head of the history department at Virginia Military Institute suggests that the Apostle Paul faked his conversion and was really a spy for the Romans.   <<Read the Rest>> [...]

]]> By: Dr. D http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-8687 Dr. D Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:09:18 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-8687 Steve: Thanks for visiting and for your comments, I appreciate it. Steve: Thanks for visiting and for your comments, I appreciate it.

]]> By: Steve Orr http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/comment-page-1/#comment-8685 Steve Orr Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:13:50 +0000 http://apologetica.us/2008/12/06/apostle-paul-was-a-fake-and-a-spy/#comment-8685 I am a 1974 graduate of VMI. I must tell you that I am absolutely disgusted to see any "professor", much less the head of the history department put forth such a ridiculous assertion. As you rightly point out, her "facts" are questionable at best and likely an accumulation of piecemeal information taken out of context in order to provide another means of attack on the Christian faith. As Christians, it is time to stand up to these people; I am glad to see that you have. Thank you. I am a 1974 graduate of VMI. I must tell you that I am absolutely disgusted to see any “professor”, much less the head of the history department put forth such a ridiculous assertion. As you rightly point out, her “facts” are questionable at best and likely an accumulation of piecemeal information taken out of context in order to provide another means of attack on the Christian faith. As Christians, it is time to stand up to these people; I am glad to see that you have. Thank you.

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